According to Sami

evilteabagger:

When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.

WHYYYYYY whenever anyone talks about “end of life planning” does some asshole have to make it something evil? Obviously these shitheads have never had someone with a long term illness when EOLP is actually helpful…

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

I never said anything about rape victims, did I? Don’t put words in my mouth little girl and YOU need to show some damn respect for people who disagree with you.

So let me get this straight. THIS (their SOURCE) is…anti-choice?

LISTEN YOU SEXIST PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. when you say “the only time I condone abortion is when it is to save the life of a mother” THEN THAT’S JUST LIKE SAYING “I DON’T CONDONE ABORTION WHEN IT COMES TO RAPE VICTIMS.” Under your definition, rape victims use abortion as birth control. THEY ARE CONTROLLING WHETHER OR NOT THEY GIVE BIRTH.

Guttemacher doesn’t say “women who have abortions are more likely to feel depressed” or “women who have abortions are more likely to get diseases” while conveniently leaving out that a woman is THIRTEEN times more likely to die in childbirth than from having an abortion. So NO, you worthless imbecile, guttemacher is not the same as the bullshit site you cited before.
Respect is earned, assbag. And you’ve earned ZERO.

Do you teach your children to talk like that? And I have a bad feeling that sexism will be the new race card -_-

When you say something sexist, then YES, someone will call you out on it. Do you go around calling a black person a n****r and then say “hey quit pulling the race card” when they call you a racist piece of shit? 

And yes, if I have a daughter and she encounters a sexist piece of shit like you, then I will ABSOLUTELY hope she calls them on it using whatever words she damn well pleases. And if I have a son, I hope he does the exact same thing.

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

inlikewithlife:

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

stfuantichoicers:

icanneverbloginpeace:

There is only one way that I would support an abortion and that is if it was to save the Mother’s life.

Oh good, glad we got your opinion on that. By the way, who gets to deem whether or not it will save a mother’s life? Medicine isn’t a black or…

Yup, she won alright. She won the “I’m an irresponsible pro-choicer because I do not believe in responsibility when it comes to having sex”. I am sorry but responsibility comes with making that choice to have an abortion. I blatantly centered my argument around the kids who DO use abortion as a birth control method. If you kids want to be herded around like sheep, then that is your thing. But I have been laughing my ass off for the past hour watching the reblogging explode. By all mean, keep reblogging it!

Sooo… You blatantly centered your argument around an incredibly small minority whose overblown negative stereotype in society has cost women their lives (as well as shut down clinics who have helped thousands of people every year, and gotten doctors killed and passed legislation policing our bodies) because you think it’s funny? dude I know marines whose sense of humor isn’t as fucked up as yours.

Read. http://www.contracept.org/abortifacient.php

BTW, abortion IS a form of birth control.  It stops a birth from occurring.  I, personally wouldn’t care if a woman had 50 abortions, unless I was personally paying for it.   It doesn’t matter how many abortions a woman has.  It’s a medical procedure.  I would care the same amount that I would care if a man continuously contracted STD’s and continued to seek medical help for those.  Why should that matter?

And pro-choice advocates clearly believe in responsibility when it comes to sex, which is why a lot of our arguments advocate the use of contraceptives and education, while anti-choicers ignore the subject completely or stand by their abstinence-only stance, which promotes ignorance when it comes to sex. 

And that link is bullshit.  It’s just anti-choice propaganda.  For example, it declares that many women face depression after abortion, but doesn’t state that most women actually feel relief!  Also, actually continuing pregnancy and keeping the baby or giving it up for adoption can actually lead to depression as well, much more than in the case of abortion.  Not to mention of all the claims of abortion and physical stress, when obviously birth can cause all of the things listed and more.  While we’re listing urls though, here’s some you might want to check out:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/09/3/gpr090308.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100208.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

Contraceptives and education cannot be taught without responsibility. Simply teaching all that only promotes “safe” sex which does not exist. Responsibility also goes along with common sense. If you don’t want children, why not get your tubes tied? Then you can have all the sex you want. If you cannot afford a child, then how the hell are you able to afford an abortion? In some cases more than one! The taxpayer doesn’t pay for it so…you know. Having an abortion for the sake of birth control is not only disgusting and despicable, it shows a HUGE amount of irresponsibility.

Just think about it. What is sex’s primary function? Human reproduction. No child is an accident because that child was supposed to happen. I am not trying to get involved in the whole “it’s my body” issue but the choice side lacks some serious responsibility. That is all I want. For people to be more responsible. But I guess in this day and age responsibility is a dying breed too.

There’s so much wrong with this:
“if you can’t afford a kid who can you afford an abortion?” UHHHH are you dense? My FIRST (out of many) prenatal visit cost twice as much as what an abortion at this time would have.
“if you don’t want kids why don’t you just get your tubes tied” most doctors won’t even consider performing this procedure on a woman under 35. Hell one of my best friends has a heart condition where she could quite possibly die if she got pregnant and her doctor won’t even let her entertain the thought. Also, fuck you for suggesting a woman get an expensive and invasive procedure because you don’t like her choices. For those of us lucky enough to have insurance, theres long term solutions like mirena, but guess what? People who can’t afford a kid don’t always have insurance and are stuck with getting condoms or the pill at PP because that’s all that is available.
Also: sex is basically only for reproduction? That’s laughable. look at most animals, then look at humans. We have sex all the time. They have sex when the female is fertile. Our sex is pleasurable. Theirs is not, often painful, and many times the male dies. Humans have few offspring but lots of sex. Animals are usually the other way around. For that matter, how do you explain sex between infertile or old people, gay sex, or hell any straight sex that doesn’t involve penis in vagina during ejaculation?
And you still haven’t answered the original question posed to you: do you believe abortion should be legally restricted and women who have them punished? Do you believe fetuses should be granted complete personhood rights from the moment of conception, and do you fully understand the ramifications of that?

You are just…I don’t even know. According to Planned Parenthood, an abortion can cost between $350-$950 in the first trimester. Also, not all insurance companies carry abortions whereas all carry prenatal visits.

Also…“if you don’t want kids why don’t you just get your tubes tied” most doctors won’t even consider performing this procedure on a woman under 35. Thank you for giving me MORE reason to back up my RESPONSIBILITY argument.

And I feel really sorry for you. Sex may be pleasurable TO SOME (THINK of those rape victims YOU mentioned, kid…wow, talk about freaking hypocrisy!) but if you believe that pleasure overrules responsibility then this generation really is screwed.

Hurrr many people who get abortions don’t have insurance. I didn’t when I got pregnant, and if I wasn’t able to get on my husbands right away we would have aborted it. My first prenatal visit would have cost over $500 out of pocket, and $4000 for the basic visits, not including tests, hospital stays,

Nice silence on that last part. I am sure all your little sheep are proud of ya. Hypocrite.

My phone cut off, don’t worry, I fixed it. I wasn’t about to allow your derailing assbaggery go untouched.

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

inlikewithlife:

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

stfuantichoicers:

icanneverbloginpeace:

There is only one way that I would support an abortion and that is if it was to save the Mother’s life.

Oh good, glad we got your opinion on that. By the way, who gets to deem whether or not it will save a mother’s life? Medicine isn’t a black or…

Yup, she won alright. She won the “I’m an irresponsible pro-choicer because I do not believe in responsibility when it comes to having sex”. I am sorry but responsibility comes with making that choice to have an abortion. I blatantly centered my argument around the kids who DO use abortion as a birth control method. If you kids want to be herded around like sheep, then that is your thing. But I have been laughing my ass off for the past hour watching the reblogging explode. By all mean, keep reblogging it!

Sooo… You blatantly centered your argument around an incredibly small minority whose overblown negative stereotype in society has cost women their lives (as well as shut down clinics who have helped thousands of people every year, and gotten doctors killed and passed legislation policing our bodies) because you think it’s funny? dude I know marines whose sense of humor isn’t as fucked up as yours.

Read. http://www.contracept.org/abortifacient.php

BTW, abortion IS a form of birth control. It stops a birth from occurring. I, personally wouldn’t care if a woman had 50 abortions, unless I was personally paying for it. It doesn’t matter how many abortions a woman has. It’s a medical procedure. I would care the same amount that I would care if a man continuously contracted STD’s and continued to seek medical help for those. Why should that matter?

And pro-choice advocates clearly believe in responsibility when it comes to sex, which is why a lot of our arguments advocate the use of contraceptives and education, while anti-choicers ignore the subject completely or stand by their abstinence-only stance, which promotes ignorance when it comes to sex.

And that link is bullshit. It’s just anti-choice propaganda. For example, it declares that many women face depression after abortion, but doesn’t state that most women actually feel relief! Also, actually continuing pregnancy and keeping the baby or giving it up for adoption can actually lead to depression as well, much more than in the case of abortion. Not to mention of all the claims of abortion and physical stress, when obviously birth can cause all of the things listed and more. While we’re listing urls though, here’s some you might want to check out:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/09/3/gpr090308.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100208.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

Contraceptives and education cannot be taught without responsibility. Simply teaching all that only promotes “safe” sex which does not exist. Responsibility also goes along with common sense. If you don’t want children, why not get your tubes tied? Then you can have all the sex you want. If you cannot afford a child, then how the hell are you able to afford an abortion? In some cases more than one! The taxpayer doesn’t pay for it so…you know. Having an abortion for the sake of birth control is not only disgusting and despicable, it shows a HUGE amount of irresponsibility.

Just think about it. What is sex’s primary function? Human reproduction. No child is an accident because that child was supposed to happen. I am not trying to get involved in the whole “it’s my body” issue but the choice side lacks some serious responsibility. That is all I want. For people to be more responsible. But I guess in this day and age responsibility is a dying breed too.

There’s so much wrong with this:
“if you can’t afford a kid who can you afford an abortion?” UHHHH are you dense? My FIRST (out of many) prenatal visit cost twice as much as what an abortion at this time would have.
“if you don’t want kids why don’t you just get your tubes tied” most doctors won’t even consider performing this procedure on a woman under 35. Hell one of my best friends has a heart condition where she could quite possibly die if she got pregnant and her doctor won’t even let her entertain the thought. Also, fuck you for suggesting a woman get an expensive and invasive procedure because you don’t like her choices. For those of us lucky enough to have insurance, theres long term solutions like mirena, but guess what? People who can’t afford a kid don’t always have insurance and are stuck with getting condoms or the pill at PP because that’s all that is available.
Also: sex is basically only for reproduction? That’s laughable. look at most animals, then look at humans. We have sex all the time. They have sex when the female is fertile. Our sex is pleasurable. Theirs is not, often painful, and many times the male dies. Humans have few offspring but lots of sex. Animals are usually the other way around. For that matter, how do you explain sex between infertile or old people, gay sex, or hell any straight sex that doesn’t involve penis in vagina during ejaculation?
And you still haven’t answered the original question posed to you: do you believe abortion should be legally restricted and women who have them punished? Do you believe fetuses should be granted complete personhood rights from the moment of conception, and do you fully understand the ramifications of that?

You are just…I don’t even know. According to Planned Parenthood, an abortion can cost between $350-$950 in the first trimester. Also, not all insurance companies carry abortions whereas all carry prenatal visits.

Also…“if you don’t want kids why don’t you just get your tubes tied” most doctors won’t even consider performing this procedure on a woman under 35. Thank you for giving me MORE reason to back up my RESPONSIBILITY argument.

And I feel really sorry for you. Sex may be pleasurable TO SOME (THINK of those rape victims YOU mentioned, kid…wow, talk about freaking hypocrisy!) but if you believe that pleasure overrules responsibility then this generation really is screwed.

Hurrr many people who get abortions don’t have insurance. I didn’t when I got pregnant, and if I wasn’t able to get on my husbands right away we would have aborted it. My first prenatal visit would have cost over $500 out of pocket, and $4000 for the basic visits, not including tests, hospital stays, or any complications. But according to your logic I shouldn’t have sex with my husband who I live with if I don’t want a kid RIGHT THIS SECOND?

so because our current healthcare system is misogynistic and is full of old men telling young women what’s bestfor their bodies, they should hold off having sex? I’m sure that’s EXACTLY how you would see it. Yes, sex is pleasurable. Religion really takes a lot out of it, making it all shameful and whatnot, but if you’re free from that bullshit it’s really great. And rape victims? Fucking seriously? I said sex was DESIGNED to be pleasurable. Rape is NOT about sex or sexual pleasure. And rape victims can still have pleasurable CONSENSUAL sex. Me saying that isn’t hypocritical, douche.

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

stfuantichoicers:

icanneverbloginpeace:

There is only one way that I would support an abortion and that is if it was to save the Mother’s life.

Oh good, glad we got your opinion on that. By the way, who gets to deem whether or not it will save a mother’s life? Medicine isn’t a black or…

Yup, she won alright. She won the “I’m an irresponsible pro-choicer because I do not believe in responsibility when it comes to having sex”. I am sorry but responsibility comes with making that choice to have an abortion. I blatantly centered my argument around the kids who DO use abortion as a birth control method. If you kids want to be herded around like sheep, then that is your thing. But I have been laughing my ass off for the past hour watching the reblogging explode. By all mean, keep reblogging it!

Sooo… You blatantly centered your argument around an incredibly small minority whose overblown negative stereotype in society has cost women their lives (as well as shut down clinics who have helped thousands of people every year, and gotten doctors killed and passed legislation policing our bodies) because you think it’s funny? dude I know marines whose sense of humor isn’t as fucked up as yours.

Read. http://www.contracept.org/abortifacient.php

Read: something not full of anti-choice rhetoric. PLEASE.

Oh, so your argument was that anyone who gets an abortion for any reason other than to literally save her life from impending doom is irresponsible and then falls under your umbrella of “kids using abortion as birth control” THEN STFUANTICHOICERS ARGUMENT WAS SPOT ON AND YOU SAYING “I blatantly centered my argument blah blah I’m I dickhole” makes no sense. also: those rape/incest victims were totally asking for it, amirite? Getting an abortion so they don’t have to endure 9 months of reliving the act and carrying their rapists baby? Making the CHOICE to reclaim their lived? TOTALLY irresponsible.

I never said anything about rape victims, did I? Don’t put words in my mouth little girl and YOU need to show some damn respect for people who disagree with you.

So let me get this straight. THIS (their SOURCE) is…anti-choice?

LISTEN YOU SEXIST PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. when you say “the only time I condone abortion is when it is to save the life of a mother” THEN THAT’S JUST LIKE SAYING “I DON’T CONDONE ABORTION WHEN IT COMES TO RAPE VICTIMS.” Under your definition, rape victims use abortion as birth control. THEY ARE CONTROLLING WHETHER OR NOT THEY GIVE BIRTH.

Guttemacher doesn’t say “women who have abortions are more likely to feel depressed” or “women who have abortions are more likely to get diseases” while conveniently leaving out that a woman is THIRTEEN times more likely to die in childbirth than from having an abortion. So NO, you worthless imbecile, guttemacher is not the same as the bullshit site you cited before.
Respect is earned, assbag. And you’ve earned ZERO.

icanneverbloginpeace:

inlikewithlife:

icanneverbloginpeace:

accordingtosami:

icanneverbloginpeace:

stfuantichoicers:

icanneverbloginpeace:

There is only one way that I would support an abortion and that is if it was to save the Mother’s life.

Oh good, glad we got your opinion on that. By the way, who gets to deem whether or not it will save a mother’s life? Medicine isn’t a black or…

Yup, she won alright. She won the “I’m an irresponsible pro-choicer because I do not believe in responsibility when it comes to having sex”. I am sorry but responsibility comes with making that choice to have an abortion. I blatantly centered my argument around the kids who DO use abortion as a birth control method. If you kids want to be herded around like sheep, then that is your thing. But I have been laughing my ass off for the past hour watching the reblogging explode. By all mean, keep reblogging it!

Sooo… You blatantly centered your argument around an incredibly small minority whose overblown negative stereotype in society has cost women their lives (as well as shut down clinics who have helped thousands of people every year, and gotten doctors killed and passed legislation policing our bodies) because you think it’s funny? dude I know marines whose sense of humor isn’t as fucked up as yours.

Read. http://www.contracept.org/abortifacient.php

BTW, abortion IS a form of birth control.  It stops a birth from occurring.  I, personally wouldn’t care if a woman had 50 abortions, unless I was personally paying for it.   It doesn’t matter how many abortions a woman has.  It’s a medical procedure.  I would care the same amount that I would care if a man continuously contracted STD’s and continued to seek medical help for those.  Why should that matter?

And pro-choice advocates clearly believe in responsibility when it comes to sex, which is why a lot of our arguments advocate the use of contraceptives and education, while anti-choicers ignore the subject completely or stand by their abstinence-only stance, which promotes ignorance when it comes to sex. 

And that link is bullshit.  It’s just anti-choice propaganda.  For example, it declares that many women face depression after abortion, but doesn’t state that most women actually feel relief!  Also, actually continuing pregnancy and keeping the baby or giving it up for adoption can actually lead to depression as well, much more than in the case of abortion.  Not to mention of all the claims of abortion and physical stress, when obviously birth can cause all of the things listed and more.  While we’re listing urls though, here’s some you might want to check out:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/09/3/gpr090308.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100208.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

Contraceptives and education cannot be taught without responsibility. Simply teaching all that only promotes “safe” sex which does not exist. Responsibility also goes along with common sense. If you don’t want children, why not get your tubes tied? Then you can have all the sex you want. If you cannot afford a child, then how the hell are you able to afford an abortion? In some cases more than one! The taxpayer doesn’t pay for it so…you know. Having an abortion for the sake of birth control is not only disgusting and despicable, it shows a HUGE amount of irresponsibility.

Just think about it. What is sex’s primary function? Human reproduction. No child is an accident because that child was supposed to happen. I am not trying to get involved in the whole “it’s my body” issue but the choice side lacks some serious responsibility. That is all I want. For people to be more responsible. But I guess in this day and age responsibility is a dying breed too.

There’s so much wrong with this:
“if you can’t afford a kid who can you afford an abortion?” UHHHH are you dense? My FIRST (out of many) prenatal visit cost twice as much as what an abortion at this time would have.
“if you don’t want kids why don’t you just get your tubes tied” most doctors won’t even consider performing this procedure on a woman under 35. Hell one of my best friends has a heart condition where she could quite possibly die if she got pregnant and her doctor won’t even let her entertain the thought. Also, fuck you for suggesting a woman get an expensive and invasive procedure because you don’t like her choices. For those of us lucky enough to have insurance, theres long term solutions like mirena, but guess what? People who can’t afford a kid don’t always have insurance and are stuck with getting condoms or the pill at PP because that’s all that is available.
Also: sex is basically only for reproduction? That’s laughable. look at most animals, then look at humans. We have sex all the time. They have sex when the female is fertile. Our sex is pleasurable. Theirs is not, often painful, and many times the male dies. Humans have few offspring but lots of sex. Animals are usually the other way around. For that matter, how do you explain sex between infertile or old people, gay sex, or hell any straight sex that doesn’t involve penis in vagina during ejaculation?
And you still haven’t answered the original question posed to you: do you believe abortion should be legally restricted and women who have them punished? Do you believe fetuses should be granted complete personhood rights from the moment of conception, and do you fully understand the ramifications of that?